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 Alternative Skirmish V2.01 (B26) Fixed 
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:42 am
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Sorry everyone, I uploaded the wrong version.

I uploaded the correct one now

If you downloaded V 1.50 before this post you can fix it by going to Alternative Skirmish.rte/AlternativeSkirmish.lua and change line 21

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   self.SpecialStage = 12;


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   self.SpecialStage = 0;


Sorry for confusion :(


Doesn't work, will fix as soon as possible

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Fixed

I just had a fight on normal on my secondary computer. Works perfectly. That fight caused my heart to beat at a triple rate :P


Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:55 pm
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I would still like a pure vanilla or easily user modular attack wave system, but oh well.
Played on Nuts, got to the first APC and my system started lagging horribly. I am not sure if this was because of the APC, or because of the amount of drop crates (and other craft) falling from the sky. Even while horribly laggy I managed to get up to another wave of Assault troops after the APC before my last soldier's heavy sniper rifle exploded in his hand for no apparent reason (there was no one shooting at him at the moment, and he was not shooting at anyone), when he died (I think to bleeding to death, but there was no one there shooting at him) I managed to survive up to the next APC wave just on the AI soldiers and craft killing themselves before a soldier finally made it to my dummy brain to destroy it.


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I just had a really nice ...well... Skirmish using this, here is the story of bunker #15347:
***IMAGE WARNING***
(Read text on top, then the picture under it.)


EDIT: crap images BLAG
Here's the link to the library of the pictures, for better quality. http://imageshack.us/g/853/screendump032.png/


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I didn't have any chances at all.
http://imageshack.us/g/21/screendump014.png/
I think it's bug/glitch.
(sorrieh for .bmp but atleast better quality)


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I want the APC to be replaced with something else! :l
It came down, hit a wall, flipped over and died... Other than that not bad :3
But during evacuation dropcrates started landing and when I evacuated the dropship and my brain got destroyed by one. :(


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Ari wrote:
I didn't have any chances at all.
http://imageshack.us/g/21/screendump014.png/
I think it's bug/glitch.
(sorrieh for .bmp but atleast better quality)


What diff, console errors, stage?
Please give me a bit more info.

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I want the APC to be replaced with something else! :l
It came down, hit a wall, flipped over and died... Other than that not bad :3


Why don't you like the APC?
The wall flipping will be fixed in the next update.


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Ari wrote:
I didn't have any chances at all.
http://imageshack.us/g/21/screendump014.png/
I think it's bug/glitch.
(sorrieh for .bmp but atleast better quality)

I get that as well after a while, the AI just ignores the LZ restrictions and dumps loads of rockets, dropships and drop crates right over my base. Will get more detailed info in my next play.


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I find it too easy, If for whatever reason it flips over it has no way to flip up and continue fighting which can be disappointing.
It should have some dummy drop pods come down with it and maybe have dummys continue to come down afterwards.
Or preferably just get something much harder to kill since I had more problems with the Browncoats at the start than with the APC and it just seems anti climactic...


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akblabla wrote:
Why don't you like the APC?

I do not like the APC for a number of reasons.
1) It is non-optional vastly divergent from vanilla content (this would not be a big deal if I could just simply comment in or out the content I want to rain down, such as in weegee's mods)
2) It is too powerful in unintended ways. Just driving around it erases vast swathes of terrain and bunker without even intending to. This would not be so bad if it actually stopped and used a giant custom digger to dig, but it does not, it just pushes through the terrain as through it was not there erasing it as it goes...
but more ofthen than not...
3) It will just get stuck, crash and gib itself without it ever actually doing anything.


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Asatruer wrote:
akblabla wrote:
Why don't you like the APC?

I do not like the APC for a number of reasons.
1) It is non-optional vastly divergent from vanilla content (this would not be a big deal if I could just simply comment in or out the content I want to rain down, such as in weegee's mods)
2) It is too powerful in unintended ways. Just driving around it erases vast swathes of terrain and bunker without even intending to. This would not be so bad if it actually stopped and used a giant custom digger to dig, but it does not, it just pushes through the terrain as through it was not there erasing it as it goes...
but more ofthen than not...
3) It will just get stuck, crash and gib itself without it ever actually doing anything.


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I find it too easy, If for whatever reason it flips over it has no way to flip up and continue fighting which can be disappointing.
It should have some dummy drop pods come down with it and maybe have dummys continue to come down afterwards.
Or preferably just get something much harder to kill since I had more problems with the Browncoats at the start than with the APC and it just seems anti climactic...


Ok, I will try to find an alternative, I just took the APC as it is one of my absolute favorite mods around in my opinion and I always think that the mission that is included in the original mod is a blast when the APC arrives. Do you have any other idea what could be a boss wave that is a bit more vallina'ish?

A possibility might be adding some of my old mods, shined up of course, like my phoenix, manticore and manta

viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19484

viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19030&hilit=manticore

I could give the manticore some artillery piece so that it can siege your base from afar. The phoenix could be used for bombing runs and the manta could be used for some sort of wierd harasser. Just throwing out ideas.

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(this would not be a big deal if I could just simply comment in or out the content I want to rain down, such as in weegee's mods)


You can easily change things like starting funds, spawning rate, types of enemies, dropships and so on just like in weegee's mods. It is just due to special waves having a unique spawning pattern every time I haven't bothered to make an easy to change function for them, but If you wishes to skip the APC wave you can just open the AlternativeSkirmish.lua and replace line 796

Code:
        self.SpecialStage = 11


with

Code:
        local check = true
        for player = Activity.PLAYER_1, Activity.MAXPLAYERCOUNT - 1 do
          if self:PlayerActive(player) and self:PlayerHuman(player) then
            if self.braindead[player] == false and self:GetPlayerBrain(player).PresetName == "Brain Case" or self:GetPlayerBrain(player).PinStrength <= 0 then
              check = false
              self.SpecialStage = 13
            end
          end
        end
       
        if check then
          self.SpecialStage = 0
        end
        self.StopSending = 20


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A flier would have a lot less impact on the bunker and terrain than the Dummy APC... (until it crashes that is;), but at least in regards to how I base build a flier would have almost no effect on me unless it was dropping bunker busters (which while this might be fun once or twice... would possibly get old fast). A flier would also likely just ram into a dropship or rocket and gib the both without getting much done

LowestFormOfWit's Dummy behemoth could be pretty awesome, but suffers from being too big to get into bases reasonably, so probably not a great idea.

Squeegy Mackpy's R.E.T.A.R.D.S. would be able to fit into the base for brain hunting, and are a pretty popular likely near ubiquitous mod, so might fit the bill. That said, pretty much any standard size actor faction be it DarkStorm, der Wehrmacht, one or all subfactions of UniTec, or the Bear Federation, could work great.


As for fitting in player module customization of waves with your unique spawning pattern, maybe the big special wave (currently the APC) could be player selectable. That way only really wave 12 would need to be designed to accept the custom faction input.


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akblabla wrote:
A possibility might be adding some of my old mods, shined up of course, like my phoenix, manticore and manta


What are you waiting for?

More vehicle raids GO!


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I'd love to have a version where you don't have to escape, but the fight just keeps going on and on with the special waves every now and then.
Care to post instructions how to modify the code for that?


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Natti wrote:
I'd love to have a version where you don't have to escape, but the fight just keeps going on and on with the special waves every now and then.
Care to post instructions how to modify the code for that?


Just play with a brain that can't move and isn't the standard "brain case", fx. the dummy CPU. Then instead of getting the escape objective, the stage progress resets, so that you'll fight all the old special waves again.


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