As long as you have already paid for the game I don't think the developer can have any reason to get mad at you for getting a cracked version, unless its to get around their number of installation rules.
But those are very harsh.

They can go ♥♥♥♥ themselves for all I care.

follow suit you ♥♥♥♥ simpleton

idiots like you are the scourge that is killing the gaming industry

did it not occur to you that EA uses far more lenient DRM than our own beloved Data

Hmmm, I saw this too on a Russian warez site, but they only put up b23, no crack or anything.

Why is this thread getting derailed into a discussion of the ethics of piracy?

All that truly matters is, dirty communists are stealing Data's hard-earned money.

Because you, in the first post, were trying to tell us that your dirty communism is better than their dirty communism despite the fact that all of you are dirty communists

What? I was calling them dirty communists because they're from Russia, not because they're pirates. I'm still in the right because of three things:

1. America was founded on a platform of being a lazy ass and getting out of paying for things at every opportunity

2. Stereotyping people by their nationality ranks up there with truthiness and justice as elements of the American Way

3. I'm an idiot for flaming.

NOW CAN WE GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ♥♥♥♥ TOPIC PLEASE thank you very much.

Oh man, Piracy.

See, there are very few ways to justify piracy, but there are ways.

1. A game is old, or the developer is changed/gone - I consider a game like Fallout 2 or Deus Ex to be fair game. There is no more sizable market for them, so all the developer would receive is a trickle of small cash. They already got their money, and have most likely started new games. Plus from a consequence point of view, the developer won't track you down to get money from an 8 year old game.

2. Horrible game - Let's face it, a lot of games are horrible. This may be the developers fault, the publishers fault, what have you, but some games are just bad to play. This does not mean everyone hates them. If you want to play a terrible game, I consider it fair play to pirate it. Now, this does not mean you can steal Sims 3 because you feel you might hate it.

3. People behind the game - This is a very risky rule. This is for people who have had bad experiences in the past with certain developers. I'm talking about terrible tech support, terrible PR, buggy release ect. This means companies like EA, with a history of bad support, are free to people who have been burned, but not to people who hear stories. If you hear people complain, this does not apply to you. Plenty of people get lucky.

For everyone else: Try going for the many Legal torrents out there.


[Notice DRL is not affected by these rules!]

We are talking about the original topic.

Stop QQing because we don't agree with you. The fact of the matter is that piracy is piracy, and theft is theft. Regardless of who you steal from, it is still stealing.

In this day and age, software piracy is just a fact of life and an aspect of your software life cycle you have to deal with as a process of design. No one is immune from this.

Even Steam-dependent games, and World of Warcraft (games with rely on digital distribution and/or subscription content) are not immune from piracy. There are just some people in this world who don't want to do pay for their products.

That certainly doesn't make them communist. If anything, that makes them more capitalist than anyone else. They're in it for the money (or at least, in it for not spending their money on something else). What is communist is free and open-source software. If you want to talk commie/socialist software design methodologies, those would be it.

Groups of people unpaid for their labor coming together to create a product or service collaorative? Sounds much more "red" than some kid hax0ring this dumb game.

Okay, FalconX snuck in a post before me:

Guess what guys: Piracy is not justifiable at all. It is still theft. If the game is abandonware, the rights are still owned by someone and you are violating those rights. Piracy is a crime, with consequences just as real as assault or carjacking.

Any attempt at rationalizing your decision to use pirated software is just that: rational lying.

Also, where do you get off with those three points? How on Earth is America a country that was founded as a place where people can do nothing. That clearly doesn't make any sense.

And why are you arguing about stereotyping when you called those Russkiys "communists," when the last time I checked the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 (which I realize you were clearly not alive for, but you should still know this).

I quote, that I on a forum where piracy happens (I can't pirate. Computer is too crappy to play any good games.) I see a DRLFF member on there. I can't post a link there as it would be called advertising and links to piracy. If you want the link, PM me and I'll give proof. And I can't photoshop well. Notice how I edited out the forum's name.

How this made two pages I'm curios to know. Ragged druid should have sent an e-mail to data and that would have been the end. Instead he made a thread. I'm proposing that this thread gets locked/deleted. I'm also reporting it as the discussion of piracy.

Edit. Not reporting it because it doesn't actually contain a link.

Shiver me timbers! Shame on ye dapaperboy! but I'll reason with ye olde poorer people o' society. piratin' be ye poor mans way o' life, we all deserve entertainment but just spent £100 on shopping when ye went to town? then piratin' aint the life fer you boi! [read: I don't really mind pirating when it's poor people who wouldn't usually have the luxury of playing computer games. I think south park tried to get the message across that (real) pirates resort to theft etc because it's the only way they can survive and it's a their last resort... also that real pirates are nothing like fantasy pirates but that's completely besides the point.]

Also really old games that you can't find or buy anywhere nowadays. (I support abandonware, if you can't find the software on sale online)

Pirating most art apps, I think, is justified for your average joe, who the hell can afford to buy photoshop, painter and most 3d products? rich guys and companies, do you think even half the arty people on the internet who are below the age of 20 actually legally bought them?

However after finding out about paint tool sai (£40) I think there's no need pirate those apps any more, and I prefer blender to any of the other 3d apps out there, so no I don't pirate... anymore.

All I see is a whole load of porn, a movie, a TV show and a game.
Nothing legal is present.

Actually there is one legal thing: VLC media player http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

ROFL! xD