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Author:  TrouserDemon [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

If you think the criticism is bull♥♥♥♥, then why did you go nuts and write a big emo post about how much it pisses you off?

Author:  BlueThen [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:42 am ]
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TrouserDemon wrote:
If you think the criticism is bull♥♥♥♥, then why did you go nuts and write a big emo post about how much it pisses you off?

I'm not talking about criticism in general.

I'm talking about when people say:
"There's too much scripting"

Author:  TrouserDemon [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

In that case I agree with you to the extent that it is poor criticism, BUT I do think you will need to trim the scripts to make them more user friendly.

Author:  BlueThen [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:52 am ]
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TrouserDemon wrote:
In that case I agree with you to the extent that it is poor criticism, BUT I do think you will need to trim the scripts to make them more user friendly.

In what way?

Author:  TrouserDemon [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

Pyrorex wrote:
your random number generator, in remote wrote:
Blah blah massive hunk of text

Simple, aliases wrote:
/rand /msg #drlchat $rand(1, 50)

Dialogues much simpler.


While your HUGE pile of text confused me, this made some sense.

Author:  BlueThen [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:44 am ]
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TrouserDemon wrote:
Pyrorex wrote:
your random number generator, in remote wrote:
Blah blah massive hunk of text

Simple, aliases wrote:
/rand /msg #drlchat $rand(1, 50)

Dialogues much simpler.


While your HUGE pile of text confused me, this made some sense.

aliases are simpler in execution, but dialogs are easier to understand.

Author:  Grif [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

No, dialogs make PRETTY PICTARS.

Whereas an alias requires a mild, mild amount of user intelligence to function correctly.

HOW ABOUT THIS.

Daman, stop talking, BlueThen's can't handle trolling.

Bluethen, stop bitching, Daman's a troll.

Author:  BlueThen [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:54 am ]
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Grif wrote:
No, dialogs make PRETTY PICTARS.

Whereas an alias requires a mild, mild amount of user intelligence to function correctly.

That may be true, but a single alias can't do everything. Take the Script Creator for example, I doubt it's even possible to make a understandable alias command in performing all that it does.

Author:  Grif [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

That's very true; aliases are generally much more specific.

Author:  Pyrorex [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:00 am ]
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Ohay you're dumb. "replace X with the floor number and Y with the cieling number and type /rand" is a lot easier than "Click this type in that click this type that then click this and this and etc etc etc etc etcn etcdfkasg" We're bitching about the complexity of use. Not the complexity of the script.

Author:  Daman [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:19 am ]
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BlueThen wrote:
If you paint something, you can't make great works with just red, blue, and yellow, you have to mix the paint and use different shades.


Yeah, but using mixed colors doesn't make it harder for other people to look at.

And I think your dialogues are uglier than aliases.

And I'm not talking about how your script is ugly or complex, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. It's not. It's just long. I'm talking about how the way you use it is more complex than alias and hinders it's use.

Quote:
In my opinion, great scripters and programmers actually prefer to learn new things, than sticking with the basic cheap ways you use.


Alright, then you would prefer to move on to a language such as C++, where there aren't aliases, only dialogues.

And no ♥♥♥♥ an alias would be much more of a pain to code a script creator as, as things like the script creator SHOULD BE CODED IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE, LIKE C++/C#, WHICH IS DESIGNED FOR DIALOGUES.

Seriously.

Author:  BlueThen [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:05 am ]
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You say "seriously" too much.

Author:  Daman [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

.hcum oot ti esu I taht gniylpmi ylsuoires drow eht fo esu ruoy no gniyalp t'nsaw yllatot I

I totally wasn't playing on your use of the word seriously implying that I use it too much.

At first I attempted to type in normally, but because everything was getting typed backwards and the backspace key didn't go backwards so I couldn't erase stuff I gave up. Backwards text issue is now fixed etc.

Author:  surplus2475 [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BlueThen's mIRC Script Collection

Back on the issue of experience:

Experience in making things user-friendly is just as important as coding experience. Any idiot can learn C++, Java, or a programming language.

It's the ability to make something useful, well-designed, simple to use, and functional that differentiates a data entry monkey (the person who types code with no understanding), and a programmer (someone who designs unique applications in a respected language).

Experience is more than just learning a language. Its learning the culture around the language and what its useful for.

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