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Author:  Sothe [ Thu May 07, 2015 10:28 pm ]
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I did a drug once and now I have to pee sitting down

Author:  Ociamarru [ Fri May 08, 2015 4:46 am ]
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I did a lot of drugs in high school and now I don't even like drinking. #420 #4ever :ccevil:
Except I got a job at a call center which pays halfway decently and I'm not sure if they drug test, so I've been through a rather abrupt bout of sobriety.

Author:  Ociamarru [ Sun May 17, 2015 7:31 am ]
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Drinking alcohol is always the best idea/worst idea
Sent from an drunk HTC One M8

Author:  Homophanim [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:40 am ]
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Bit late for you, bud, but here's this for future reference.

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Author:  Nonsequitorian [ Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:10 am ]
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Very interesting. I always assume a low-grade "herbal remedy" without a real list of ingredients to be something along the lines of snake oil when it comes to that sort of stuff. Not that any of it doesn't work, but it's easier to assume it doesn't. I always just thought that extreme hydration and some form of diuretic was the best way of flush your system of such nonsense, and the body weight factor makes a lot of sense with the knowledge that it's in your fats.

To be fair though, I've only taken, like, one drug test for anything that wasn't a doctor's visit, so it's not something I stress out about.


Totally slightly related, though, I've always wondered why certain methods of consumption of weed give you different highs. For the most part, smoking seems to me to be smoking, but vaping feels different, and then edibles might as well be a different drug as far as I'm concerned. From what I understood, it's all just the same chemical, and as somebody who hasn't found the time to really delve into anatomy and some light biochemistry, I can't come up with a decent guess.


On another note, although I've come to understand (mostly from you and a couple of my friends with similar interests) that LSD isn't really something that causes any sort of common danger (such as those flashbacks when people crack their backs, years after they did it), I had the idea to make some sort of tincture from morning glory or Hawaiian baby woodrose (or whatever it's called) to try LSA too. I've found that I've been pretty susceptible to lasting, although managable, issues from this vein of drugs - being both the seizures I had that one time and then later continued to have whenever I tried to sleep, which I later learned were hypnic shocks caused from the mix of stupid amounts of caffeine along with the mushrooms, and the mild yet disruptive visual distortions I get every so often. I can't place the source on the latter issue; I might just be mental.

Regardless, is the LSA of morning glory something that, unlike LSD, could do bodily harm?

Author:  Homophanim [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:40 pm ]
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Cannabidiol (CBD) vaporizes at 200C and THC at 150-160C (all numbers I ever put into this thread should be read with "roughly" before them), so a lot of the time with a vaporizer you end up with a much, much higher THC:CBD ratio ingested than if you had smoked the herb. It's also more efficient, considering no pyrolization (read: burning the molecule and rendering it useless) happens.

Edibles may as well be a different drug because they may well be a different drug. I have no idea. What I do know is that smoking weed bypasses first-pass metabolization, and going through that process may well produce a different ingestion profile than smoking the same herb. There's also come up time to consider. If you've ever snorted a drug, you know what I mean when I say how fast the drug gets into you is VERY important, both in determining the strength of effects and often the effects themselves. Cooking your cannabinoids also converts THC-A into THC via a process called decarboxylation. So, cooking your weed makes it stronger. Yes this applies to weed you're going to smoke/vape, it's not just for edibles.

RE: Your comments on psychedelics, I doubt I will ever go quite insane enough to call psychedelic drugs safe. Is taking acid safer than taking heroin? Depends, do you have a family history of schizophrenia? The question of how safe drugs are is a common one, a complex one, and, unfortunately, nigh-unanswerable. Every time you take something, there is a risk. You've apparently run into some bad side-effects (the wannabe scientist in me is ♥♥♥♥ fascinated, though, if it's any consolation), and indeed you could run into worse. Do your research thoroughly, try and go above and beyond, there are no second tries to life and if you break your body you will have to live with that forever. It would have to be one hell of a night to be worth, say, triggering latent schizophrenia that would have otherwise remained latent.

Oh, and google "Hallucinogen Perception Persistence Disorder" (HPPD) if you haven't come across it already, that's probably what you're experiencing. I get various kinds of visual distortions all the time, it's not really dangerous in my case. You wouldn't qualify for the "disorder" bit, it's only considered a disorder if it's having a non-trivial negative effect on your life.

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