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Fail Flail wrote:
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Can someone recommend me some good Anglo-saxan countries to live in?
Not Australia or New Zealand.

Australia's an alright place. Well, as long as you can get used to everthing trying to kill you all the time and the ridiculous game prices.
Edit: and the spiders, god so many spiders. Also our crappy politicians.

Australia is ♥♥♥♥.


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You don't seem to understand that over ~100,000 people petition against both acts almost daily. And that number is very quickly multiplying, almost doubling.
They won't pass. Trust me.

This isn't really proof that it won't pass. Petitions are only really useful if they can convince representatives that they'll lose a significant number of votes unless they comply. For that reason, petitions are seldom useful - particularly online petitions. Many of the people "signing" the petitions aren't from the US, meaning the representatives don't care what they have to say. The rest of the people signing, in this case, are (and I'm guessing, but I think we can all agree) generally going to be young, tech-savvy and liberal. All three of those are a problem. Younger people are much less likely to vote, and for that reason, their opinions carry a lot less weight with representatives. Tech-savvy people in the US are a considerable minority in the grand scheme of things, and yet again, this means that if they were to stop voting for a certain representative, it wouldn't have a huge effect. The fact that they're mostly liberal (i.e. Democrats) means that Republicans (over half of Congress) can safely ignore the petition.

Now, the fight against SOPA is being backed by some big names (Google, Facebook and Wikipedia, to name a few) but I still don't think you can guarantee it isn't going to pass. Evidently there's been enough of a push for them to reconsider, but it could still go either way. If Wikipedia were to go through with the proposed blackout, there would definitely be a lot more support, because you'd then be reaching beyond the tech-savvy minority and into pretty much anybody who uses the internet. In the meantime, though, it's up to a vocal few to keep it from going through, and unless those few are very vocal, I still think it has a chance of passing. It isn't as cut-and-dry as you seem to be suggesting.


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I do hope you realize that any American hosted website with a copyright issue will be shut down, regardless of whether you're in country or not. Do you really think the US government gives a ♥♥♥♥ about some random person in another country and their right to go to a website that the US owns? (But has already shut down?)

None of which I care about. Warezbb, which at last check, had it's servers located in Hong Kong. Therefore, that site would be unaffected by this act.

I'd say at least 90% of the websites I visit would be unaffected by this. The remaining 10% are considered expendable.


This, again. There are many sites from Spain, Argentina and México I use, and US sites aren't the ones I use the most.

Still, if they blocked half of the internet or even more, what would happen? Would people quit the internet and begin living?


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Just a question.
Where is DRL hosted?


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It's in Houston, Texas apparently.
http://www.ipchecking.com/?ip=www.datar ... eck=Lookup


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Yeah.

Let's have that sink in for a moment.


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OMG WE HAS TO STOPS THIS ACT ITS GONNA BRING DRLFF DOWN D:


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Nah.

It's just going to block the DNS to piracy-suspect sites.

Won't affect DRL one bit.


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Even the DNS block can be bypassed fairly easily.


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Yeah you don't even have to be tech savvy, just ask someone outside the states to look up the IP for the site you wanna go to.


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NIt's just going to block the DNS to piracy-suspect sites.

The major fear is that "piracy-suspected site" is going to include a lot more than sites suspected of piracy. This is America's major media companies we're talking about, they've been able to get Google to take down a lot more "copyright infringing content" than they own the copyrights to.


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I haven't informed myself much, what things could they use as an excuse to block a website?


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Distributing copyrighted software without consent (piracy that is.)


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Only software?


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Any sites that are illegally distributing anything copyrighted can be blocked under this act. That includes software, music, videos, and plenty more. In fact, if a site even links to a site associated with piracy, it can be blocked (as I understand it, anyway. Feel free to correct me on that).
The major concern here isn't really with smaller sites like DRL - I highly doubt large companies would waste their time unless they thought there was a significant issue of piracy here. If the act passes, though, it will definitely be used to push Google, Facebook, Twitter and other large web-based companies to change their policies and censor their content. They may choose to only do so in the US, or they may choose to do it worldwide. For anybody outside of the US, that's the main concern.


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