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Author:  Lizardheim [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

How witty, too bad both SOPA and PIPA has been shot down.

Author:  Gotcha! [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Naxete wrote:
Gotcha, SOPA and PIPA are paused, not canceled, so technically they're sleeping not buried.


From what I understand SOPA and PIPA, in their current form, are dead. They'll need to change these plans or come up with something new in order to have the american government take another look at it.

Do correct me if I am wrong.

Author:  Duh102 [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Essentially. Bringing them up again would be somewhat of a political suicide because they're such unpopular bills. No senators will touch them for fear of losing popularity.

Author:  Shakatuko [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

I really think those ♥♥♥holes will shut down most of the internet sites, because there was something Crow said on another topic that was like:
"Who can stop Data from making a hacky campaign and buggy gameplay and say the game is released? No one."

Well, who can stop the government from stopping the internet? Maybe someone will do it, but, the chances of no one stopping them are... well... high.

Didn't wanted to disappoint anyone here. Just wanted to be realistic.

Author:  Metal Chao [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Shakatuko wrote:
I really think those ♥♥♥holes will shut down most of the internet sites, because there was something Crow said on another topic that was like:
"Who can stop Data from making a hacky campaign and buggy gameplay and say the game is released? No one."

Well, who can stop the government from stopping the internet? Maybe someone will do it, but, the chances of no one stopping them are... well... high.

Didn't wanted to disappoint anyone here. Just wanted to be realistic.

Lizardheim wrote:
How witty, too bad both SOPA and PIPA has been shot down.

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Author:  LordVonKain [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

metal chao wrote:
Shakatuko wrote:
snip.

Lizardheim wrote:
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Best Film i ever seen, Just sayin.

Author:  sabasNL [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Stop laughing peoplez, while SOPA and PIPA may be down, ACTA isn't.

ACTA is less about the authorities corrupt Congress censuring the WWW and blocking your speech, this is more directed against pirating and scam. And this is going to be used to sue everyone they don't like. Including you, because you downloaded 1 copyrighted file. Dont have $150.000 to pay for that song? Oh then you can just come to the USA, they have lovely cells for you! Don't even try to flee to Serbia or India, it won't make any difference, it's international anyway!

MegaUpload was the very first step in this progress: The authorities now have ALL data from EVERYONE that ever uploaded or downloaded something on the website!

Quote:
A signing ceremony was held on 1 October 2011 in Tokyo, with the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signing the treaty. The European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland attended but did not sign, professing support and saying they will do so in the future. Article 39 of ACTA states countries can sign the treaty until 31 March 2013.


Nobody really knew about this because this was kept from the public...

Very nice vid explaining it:

Author:  Naxete [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

The plot of ACTA explains (at least for me) how FBI had so easy to catch the biggest
salmon of all the rivers without giving a crap... too much international cooperation, me thinks...


Sadly, my country is one of the European countries slaved by Euro-coin, so there's nothing
spaniards can do at all, nothing legal I mean :scared: I could "VfromVendetta" the SGAE but nothing else.

@SabasNL: There are no room enough for 175 million users, I think... unless slavery gets re-legalized :-?

Author:  FoiL [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

That user information bit is pretty scary.

Author:  Bad Boy [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

For anyone interested, the avaaz petition for acta. Information in the link and the cited articles (found in the linked page).
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/?slideshow

Author:  caekdaemon [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Signed that petition. I recommend you all do as well.

Author:  Naxete [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

I'm going to sign that, but beware, ask the slaver "please, stop slaving me"
doesn't work, didn't worked for Africans and it will not work for Internet.

Author:  Lizardheim [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Yeah, the fight against slavery was a fruitless fight.

Author:  Bad Boy [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

Lizardheim wrote:
Yeah, the fight against slavery was a fruitless fight.
lol

But yeah, naxete this is a bit different really. Since the countries this involves are run democratically the elected officials who'd have to approve this care about votes and their public image. If they're convinced that supporting this will make them look bad or make them lose their next election they'll be more likely not to support it. That's how pipa and sopa failed (note that I'm not trying to say it was entirely because of one petition or anything, it was because of the multitude of effective efforts), when politicians saw public opinion was against it they quickly backpedalled and changed their opinion. Hopefully the same fate will befall acta.

Author:  Naxete [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Internet Freedom

How reliable and meaningful sounds democracy in your sentences, Bad Boy.

I would pay for having a piece of your innocence, believe in the power of
the masses, all the slogans said in V of Vendetta applied into reality, but
today democracies are nothing but puppeteers and the elections are the
puppets what makes you think you're free, what you have right of opinion.

I start to think, SOPA & PIPA were meant to shock, to attract attention...
distracting our eyes from what could have been a real change of things, Megabox.

We, the spaniards, have enough lame anti-constitutional restrictions with
"sinde" law, so much frustration and hate lies here what the catalonian
pirate group its driving the public sue against the FBI in collaboration with
the International Pirate Group, we love to bite more than we can shallow.

Forgive my terrible grammar, rage makes difficult to write properly.

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