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So guys, I just want a good suggestion to read a book and I also want to make a topic for ya'll to talk about some books.
The book I want is a book that isn't fictional, isn't about romance, and isn't about comedy.
I want a book about a new way to see things of life, to see the world.
EDIT(and thanks Metal, for your suggestions, it might help me with future topic creations (if I will do any)): I want a book that has a medium length, between 500 and 1000 pages. I never read one about the same things, and that's the main reason I want one. And I know there is one like that out there.
I haven't read a book in ages, and don't come at me saying stuff like: "Well, you can't read a book then." Because you know what they say, "sharks are born swimming."
Anyways, let's say the book I would read if I didn't find any others that are specifically like the one I want would be one about Hitler's biography. Maybe that makes you know a little more about what book I want?
If it doesn't, well, I guess that I can't get any suggestions from you guys, so just use this topic to discuss about books you have read. Thanks for reading. And sorry for any idiot stuff I usually write.
And also, something more off-topic here:


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Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:11 am
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So you make a topic to discuss books, but the only book you reference is one that you haven't read and that's already infamous for being bad and has had all jokes wrung out of it many months ago.
You ask people to recommend books to you but again have made no specification as to length, genre, content or a selection of other books you particularly enjoyed so any suggestion is basically going to be the equivalent of picking something out of a hat.

You have much to learn in the art of topic-making.
The first post of a topic is extremely important and if it's one as lazy and content-free as this one, your topic has a short and tedious life ahead of it.


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Aw Joseh I love you <3
I wish I had something to recommend but I literally only ever read fiction

I'd like to say that I'm reading The Day After Tomorrow, which has absolutely no relevance to the film with 100 pages left
I read Call of Cthulhu the other day, which was very interesting (read it on my tablet because I'm a giant ♥♥♥♥♥♥)
And my copy of Roadside Picnic got here yesterday, so I'm very excited to read that


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I would suggest Hallucinations by Oliver Sacks.

It's nonfiction and it sure as hell changed my view of the world, in that his other work (Anthropologist on Mars, the Man who Mistook his Wife for a Hat) inspired me to consider neuroscience as a career; Sacks explores the human condition in incredible, mind-bending detail.


Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:33 am
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Aw Joseh I love you <3
I read Call of Cthulhu the other day, which was very interesting

Haha, thanks, anyways, I got a little obsessed with Ctulhu after I played the game (Dark Corners of The Earth), because I found it quite interesting. That might be a good book to read when I have got nothing very good to do (almost all the time). I usually only watch movies/play games, because I'm a lazy ♥♥♥♥. But now I really want to change and get some knowledge, and that knowledge can't be achieved with only reading lots of stories, but reading things that make sense, things that gives me knowledge, etc.
And also, I've watched a movie called The Road, and TBH, I think that movie needs more renown. I'm also probably gonna read the book, too.

EDIT: @TheKebbit, sorry, didn't see your post. I'm going for sure to look after the books you've suggested, thanks.


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One book I read recently was The Long Earth which is a decidedly fictional collaboration between a hard Sci-Fi author and Terry Pratchett

It was definitely a good book and I found it hard to put down, but I'd still struggle to recommend it to you because of one thing:
It's the first book of a two-part series, and as far as I can tell they just released it as a book because they thought it'd be too long as one volume?

It opens a lot of questions, establishes tension and sets plot hooks and then... only adequately addresses half of them by the conclusion (which in iteself creates a lot of unresolved drama), so until the second part is released to complete it you're only going to be unsatisfied by the ending.


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How about some Ken Follett? Great books based on real events with some of the best characters I've ever seen. And the way he presents them is just magical, with all their interconnected timeliness and lives.

Take for instance "fall of giants": 800 something pages worth of early twentieth century life, worm from the perspectives of a very diverse cast of characters. A earl, his sister, his maid, her brother, the earl's German friend, an American, two Russian brothers, one of whom went to the states.
All their stories are connected, and they coke to live as you experience the events leading up to and the actual first world war.

Or pillars of the earth, sharing the same awe inspiring way of writing with more than halve a dozen characters, including the antagonist as you follow the built of an English cathedral.

Read something by him.


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The only book people should ever read in their lifetime is Leaf House


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Metal Chao wrote:
One book I read recently was The Long Earth which is a decidedly fictional collaboration between a hard Sci-Fi author and Terry Pratchett

It was definitely a good book and I found it hard to put down, but I'd still struggle to recommend it to you because of one thing:
It's the first book of a two-part series, and as far as I can tell they just released it as a book because they thought it'd be too long as one volume?

It opens a lot of questions, establishes tension and sets plot hooks and then... only adequately addresses half of them by the conclusion (which in iteself creates a lot of unresolved drama), so until the second part is released to complete it you're only going to be unsatisfied by the ending.
Amen to that, I got the book recently too and also couldn't put it down, it was great. Not life changing perhaps, as joseh might wish, but it was thought provoking all the same in terms of the possibilities the long earth would provide. Also just a good story and such.

As for the topic, if you don't mind it simply being non-fantastic fiction rather than only non-fiction, I'd say check out A Fine Balance. It's about India (google it if you need details), very well written and moving.


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I read an abridged version of Les Miserables in english class. Some day I want to read the unabridged version, I would reccomend to anyone to do the same thing.


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That's good in French too.
Hell, I also enjoyed Les travailleurs de la mer, but that's a bit obscure even for Victor Hugo.

As far as scifi, I enjoyed and can remember off the top of my head at this moment:
A Clockwork Orange
The Castle
The Trial
The Metamorphosis
Any book by Franz Kafka. He's a damn good author.
Fahrenheit 451
Metro 2033 (though I never finished the russian version. my Russian was never that good)
A Wrinkle in Time (though that's a child's book)

Durr, there's got to be more. I'll make an update post some other time.

As far as normal fiction goes, I enjoyed and can remember off the top of my head at this moment:
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - undoubtably one of my favorite books, one I have read at least 4 times now and always find enjoyable.
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
Any book by Mark Twain. He's a damn good author.
Leben Des Galilei - This, I'm pretty sure, you can read in English. I didn't, but I'm also one of those people who like fine wine and drinking things out of mason jars.
Terre des Hommes (Another Victor Hugo book. This one I'd really recommend on reading in French because the translation is extremely hard to understand. Speaking both languages fluently, I couldn't understand half of the English one.)
Most books by Victor Hugo. He's a pretty good author. Not my favorite, but still one one should read.
The Great Gatsby - Seriously. I hear so often about kids complaining about this book. No idea why. I reread it now and again. It only ever takes a couple hours to go through (even at my slow pace). It's a fantastic story, and Jay Gatsby's character has had a clear and obvious influence on who I am.

Urr, that's an even more embarassingly short list. I'll make an update post some other time.

As far as non-fiction (or philosophy) goes, I don't read that much and remember the title. The ones I do enjoy, however, were:
Strunk and White - A must. If you're going to college and will need to write, you really need to read this one. It's had some hard critisizm, but still.
Any books about learning languages - languages are fun to learn
Any books about boats or fish - because ♥♥♥♥ you that's why. I like boats and I like fish. I'm a man of the water.
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance - I can't actually ever finish it. It's just so long and dense. Still worth a try.
[that one book about that gorilla who talks about philosophy] - I didn't like it so I don't remember its title, but I know a lot of people who do like it.

Oh god that list is even worse! Well whatever. Just read, you'll find things that are good. Not every book you read must be the best one. For all these books I read, I must have read the first five pages of 20 bad ones.


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[that one book about that gorilla who talks about philosophy] - I didn't like it so I don't remember its title, but I know a lot of people who do like it.

Ishmael was incredibly mind blowing for me when my understanding of the issues were a lot less sophisticated than today. It's very readable and I recommend it if you're a noob at social awareness and philosophy.

Also Joseh, I really don't think you should be instantly ruling out fiction on your search for truth. Werner Herzog once said

“There are deeper strata of truth in cinema, and there is such a thing as poetic, ecstatic truth. It is mysterious and elusive, and can be reached only through fabrication and imagination and stylization.”

and while I think he phrased it much better elsewhere, this is the gist of it. A story doesn't need to by literally true (as in, it happened) to be true (meaningfully consistent with the operation of reality). In fact, literal truth is often impediment to higher truth.

Anyways you might enjoy some Malcolm Gladwell books such as Blink and The Tipping Point. Pleasant to read and accessible to everyone (in a literary sense) and they're a good look into some interesting topics like intuition and zeitgeist.

Also call me if you ever level up and start wanting to read some trashy fantasy or scifi.


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I thought "Carrie" was a nice fictional book, but I'm not quite the reader.


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[that one book about that gorilla who talks about philosophy] - I didn't like it so I don't remember its title, but I know a lot of people who do like it.

Ishmael was incredibly mind blowing for me when my understanding of the issues were a lot less sophisticated than today. It's very readable and I recommend it if you're a noob at social awareness and philosophy.


Point exactly. I agreed with it for the most part until roughly the second half. I liked the idea that the Bible was written by the shepards (which in itself is "farming" animals and owning them, so the analogy kind of broke down for me), and even that white skin is the mark of Cain (although I don't agree with that one specifically), but when he started talking about how doomed civilization was I felt it was a bit too preachy. Same thing happened with the other philosophy book on my list, ZatAoMM. First half was really good, then it got a little too preachy for me to want to keep up.


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Anyone who hasn't read the complete works of Terry Pratchett should probably stop whatever boring bull♥♥♥♥ they're currently doing and do that


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