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Naruto's copies the action, but the only real difference is that it's a more action-filled scene. The second half of the copied sequence in that video is from a very different angle, one that you couldn't just use the frames from, and all of it still hand to be drawn by hand anyway.
Additionally, once again, it was one single scene. If they had been doing it continuously throughout the episode or fight, then I'd agree, but this? This was 5 seconds they took to say "Hey. Cowboy Bebop. That was an awesome fight. This one's for you, buddy."

There's a big difference between copying a tiny scene because your studio is poor and can't come up with their own action, and copying a tiny scene because your animators want to do a shoutout to an anime that they all saw and were heavily influenced by.

As far as I'm concerned the copied part is just that, the copied part, where you can clearly see that the frames are the same (as shown in that comparison I posted earlier).
So I went to compare that to the sequence in Bebop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vEeQ-vGrgY#t=226 or 57:45 in the movie
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1nysl ... shortfilms (from around 2:45 onward)

You can see they reversed the order of the cuts. In Bebop it starts with the cut where the camera is at chest height, Spike throwing fast punches, an unrelated cut in between, then the cut from top-down camera perspective with a few more punches, pull to the side and strong left blow to the jaw. For Naruto they reversed the order, so it starts with the top-down cut with the strong blow sending Naruto out of frame, cutting to the chest-height perspective cut where he's receiving fast punches. On top of that they horizontally reversed the chest-height cut to make it fit with the direction Naruto is blown out of frame in from the top-down cut.

If it was a homage, why would they reverse the order, leave out and even mirror parts, not to mention just throwing it in between the rest of the action animation? That in comparison to f.e. the Nisemonogatari bike slide which clearly stands-out as a reference to Akira. For all those reasons it seems highly unlikely that that was just a nice homage rather than copying for the sake of saving time/money, because even if it's only 5 seconds, a well animated action sequence takes a lot of time, skill and effort to pull off. Those few seconds start to matter even more when a large portion of any episode is made up of panning stills or characters moving only their mouths (as is ofcourse common in anime).


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Battle between two blonde girls with their hands held up.


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Ok Mackerel you are intentionally being a ♥♥♥♥ now.
And Adriaan, you should be ashamed of yourself,

I can't believe you're still trying to defend this.
I guess you just enjoy low quality ♥♥♥♥.

You're saying it's okay to rip from another anime just because it references it.
However, what you don't know is that it ends up with this result in the long-run.


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its not bruce lee its conan lee
stealing ♥♥♥♥ is stupid
hitsugi no chaika is good
chaika is top waifu this season


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Chaika would be 10x better if they didn't have that stupid dragon character. I mean she was sooo cool in her first episode but then they turned her into this anooying overpowered loli for no reason.


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anooying overpowered loli for no reason.

What, you mean every shonen animu girl?


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Nah, most of them have giant tits instead of being a loli.


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anooying overpowered [possibly loli] for no reason.

What, you mean every shonen animu girl?

Fixed?


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They're called references, geniuses. Artists do it all the time. It's not like they stole line art from Bebop, and its not like the Boondocks stole line art from Naruto.
I can't believe people even have arguments like these. The animators still put in time and work.


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They're called references, geniuses. Artists do it all the time. It's not like they stole line art from Bebop, and its not like the Boondocks stole line art from Naruto.
I can't believe people even have arguments like these. The animators still put in time and work.

Did you look at the earlier posts?


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Doesn't look like a trace job to me.


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Gotta look at the pixels, man.


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Doesn't look like a trace job to me.

No ofcourse it wasn't traced, the characters are different. But it was copied.


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So who is Chaika?


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Chaika a best.


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