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YHTFLKC
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:08 am Posts: 590 Location: USA
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
Barnox wrote: when the player used it
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
Joe: He means when the player uses it.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:40 am |
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Lizardheim
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
When it's a flying city, They don't come out of nowhere, they come out of EVERYWHERE!
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:55 am |
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Ragdollmaster
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
The reason this is not called "Bioshock 3" is because Infinite is a deviation of the first two games' styles- it's just set in the same universe as the other two. I can think of at least two series' deviation (namely MGS and Ace Combat), which is kind of what's happening here.
Will it still be a creepy atmospheric FPS? Yes. Are there probably going to be megalomaniacs and cyborgs? Of course. But you shouldn't expect every little detail (eg inclusion of the Sisters, the Plasmids/Gene Tonics, and so on) to be the same.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:13 pm |
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Lizardheim
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
Bioshock infinite isn't even set in the same universe 
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:11 pm |
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Ragdollmaster
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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It's not the same location (ie Rapture), but it's still the same planet, and there are plenty of parallels between the three games' stories and so on.
It's like how Halo: Reach is still set in the same universe as the other Halo games, even though it's technically a prequel. I don't mean physical location so much as the same general setting.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:18 pm |
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Joe
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:36 am Posts: 347 Location: The place where asses go to be bad
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
411570N3 wrote: He means when the player uses it. Well, once the player drank the potion from (the late) Charles, didn't the ravens start following you around?
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:42 am |
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Ociamarru
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:46 pm Posts: 1930
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 Re: Bioshock Infinite
Ragdollmaster wrote: It's not the same location (ie Rapture), but it's still the same planet, and there are plenty of parallels between the three games' stories and so on.
It's like how Halo: Reach is still set in the same universe as the other Halo games, even though it's technically a prequel. I don't mean physical location so much as the same general setting. No, they haven't been clear on whether or not it's in the same universe.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:51 am |
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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Joe wrote: Well, once the player drank the potion from (the late) Charles, didn't the ravens start following you around? Not that the player can see.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:06 am |
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Lizardheim
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Bioshock infinite is NOT set in the same universe as bioshock 2/1. I already know about prequels/sequels, learned that ♥♥♥♥ around eight years ago. Columbia is a city in the sky, with advanced technology, far more than bioshock deepseaunderwateruniverse. Just look at them :v They're both spinoffs of human history, but that doesn't make them set in the same universe.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:50 am |
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Ragdollmaster
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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Lizard wrote: Bioshock infinite is NOT set in the same universe as bioshock 2/1. Columbia is a city in the sky, with advanced technology, far more than bioshock deepseaunderwateruniverse. Technology: it could be in the future of that same universe, or even in the same time period- an underwater city complete with cyborgs, unmanned security drones, and the technology to alter a person's DNA enough to grant them freakish powers in the 1960's is pretty freaking advanced. Also, like I mentioned before there are more than enough similarities between the three games to assume that they all take place in the same world. There's a reason that it still has "Bioshock" in the title, after all To once again dredge up the example of MGS- the sneaking games are still set in the same universe as the new Rising action games are. But anyways; it hasn't been specified yet. I'm just assuming. My assumptions are no less correct or wrong than the assumptions that this is set in a totally different world.
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Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:42 pm |
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Lizardheim
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God damnit ragdoll they have confirmed themselves that it's in another place. If you had actually understood what rapture was then you might have understood that they are seperate universes. Only thing they had there before rapture was made that we ain't got was a device that removes water from buildings n such.
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Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:32 pm |
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Ragdollmaster
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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 What. Also; it's actually set in 1912, ie some 50 years before the inception of Rapture. Just because it is in a different time period and a different physical location does not necessarily mean that it is totally disconnected from the first two games. You don't need to have a direct line of sequels/prequels to have a series of games set in the same universe. For instance; the Alphas? Do you remember, by chance, the Alpha Series from Bioshock 2? They could very conceivably be the predecessors of Ryan's own hulking brutes. Nowhere on the developers' sites does it say that it is disconnected from Bioshock 1 + 2. It's not directly related, but it is in the same universe.
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Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:53 pm |
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Lizardheim
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http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80103Stfu man. You're wrong. They hqave stated it multiple times and I'll jsut call you a retard for making such long posts trying to defend your wrong view.
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:06 am |
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Ragdollmaster
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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Lizard wrote: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80103 Stfu man. You're wrong. They hqave stated it multiple times and I'll jsut call you a retard for making such long posts trying to defend your wrong view. Firstly; I would call you a retard for misspelling four-letter words and not bringing out physical evidence earlier, but it seems too obvious of an insult, so I'll just refrain from it- or should I say "jsut"? You should try backing up your points in the beginning of your argument in the future; your actual argument is full of long-winded redundancies which serve no purpose other than to drone on and on about the same thing. Secondly; that actually proves nothing. It's not the official explanation, it's the opinion of one of the moderators there, which is pointed out and confirmed within the first two replies. You should be able to understand context and not take crap at face value. This is about as reliable as a thread on 4chan. Thirdly; the release date is still around two years away. Ergo, very little has been solidly confirmed, including the plot. When the developers (and by developers, I mean freaking Ken Levine and not some two-bit moderator) officially announce that Bioshock Infinite has absolutely nothing to do with Bioshock 1 or 2 and that it is set in a totally different fictional universe, then and only then would it actually be a confirmed fact. Fourth; you're retarded. You're taking unofficial word of mouth and opinion and trying to peddle it as fact in a theoretical discussion. There is no confirmed view here; we are not discussing whether 2+2 is 4 or 5, we are discussing whether X + Y = Z or X + Y = Q when we have no idea what those variables are yet. Fifth; gg. If you honestly still believe that you are in the right then you should probably go get your head examined. Back on topic, please. If you must insist on continuing this useless debate then you can PM me and I'll promptly ignore it, leading you to think I don't have a good reply while giving me a smug sense of superiority and giving the moderators a clean topic free of bull♥♥♥♥. Everybody wins that way.
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