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http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/news/pres ... rt-&id=162

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The study included 33 chronic marijuana smokers and 26 control subjects who did not smoke marijuana.

...not so much.

This, for example, has a bigger sample size.

Not that I'm flat out denying that it may cause those effects which have been attributed to it, and I certainly appreciate the potential difficulties in getting more people, but that doesn't mean nuttin'. Not to mention we know precisely nothing about how rigorous the testing was.


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Those are metal 1-hitters.
I wouldn't buy one (more of a pipe/bong man), but, if you want a quick toke and wanna be stealthy, they're fine.
$3-4 sounds about right. So no, you did not get ripped off. But you should have just spent $20 on some cheap glass piece.

*EDIT*
Also, I think you meant k2, not k3. lol
From what I hear it's more intense/shorter, or less intense/longer. Oh, and not safe cuz you're smoking an incense.


1: Wish I could afford it, and wish sneakiness wasn't an issue.
2: I've heard about both K2 and K3...
3: What if it's only residual K3, and not a full bowl's worth?
4: Has there been a lesson on Magic Mushrooms yet? I'm thinking about helping my pop grow some sometime in the future, but first, I need information on safety, addictiveness, tastiness, etc.
5: Would very much appreciate a list of drugs, organized by addictiveness and safety. I heard that 'shrooms are safer to use than reefer, from a scientific study somewhere...


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My mom is intent on us having shrooms growing in our backyard, but I told her they aren't shrooms. She says she wants to pick them and I told her she shouldn't because I'm paranoid they're some horrible fungus that causes her eyes to bleed out. Anyone here, if I took pictures, would they be able to identify them as shrooms or not?


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What are the thoughts on Robitussin? I drank a bottle the other day and got rather ♥♥♥♥ up feeling, could hardly walk around my room or watch tv without falling over and not moving...
I am wondering if there is anything I can do if I do it again that will reduce how dizzy I get, maybe make it more fun...
Any ideas?


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What are the thoughts on Robitussin? I drank a bottle the other day and got rather ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up feeling, could hardly walk around my room or watch tv without falling over and not moving...
I am wondering if there is anything I can do if I do it again that will reduce how dizzy I get, maybe make it more fun...
Any ideas?

Dextromethorphan is a cough suppressant and a dissociative hallucinogen. Read up on it on erowid, chugging a bottle of cough syrup is a really ♥♥♥♥ bad idea and you can kill yourself without some essential knowledge. It's not really dangerous on its own except in extremely large doses, but there are sometimes ingredients packaged with the syrup that can ♥♥♥♥ with you. Plus, it's really simple to extract DXM and save yourself a stomachache and having to chug a ♥♥♥♥ of high fructose corn syrup. Do some readin', or ask some specific questions.
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My mom is intent on us having shrooms growing in our backyard, but I told her they aren't shrooms. She says she wants to pick them and I told her she shouldn't because I'm paranoid they're some horrible fungus that causes her eyes to bleed out. Anyone here, if I took pictures, would they be able to identify them as shrooms or not?

Oh my god never ever ♥♥♥♥ do this. Mushroom identification is hard to do even with proper knowledge and a spore print, much less as an amateur. There are only a few strains in the wild I would trust myself to pick and I know a little more than the average bear. If you're going to listen to me, you should never ever ever ever ever ever eeeeever pick mushrooms in the wild without someone who has done it more than a few times before. It's just too ♥♥♥♥ dangerous. Tripping balls/liver failure is a shitty win/lose scenario. If your mother (explain this last word, by the way) is intent on doing some mushrooms, it's extremely easy to grow hallucinogenic mushrooms and can be done for like 50 bucks. http://www.shroomery.org/ Enjoy
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Aaaaaand, do you know anything about K3 being a dangerous weed substitute?

Not dangerous at all, K3/K2 is a bunch of harmless herbs sprayed with synthetic cannabinoids. It is, in effect, weed. Smoke up but be careful or you'll get an intense anxiety attack. Take one mid-sized toke, wait a minute, see how you feel, and go from there. Proceed, but with caution, noble space cadet.
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Oh, and not safe cuz you're smoking an incense.

Ahhh ♥♥♥♥♥, that's an assumption. It's sold as incense because of the Analogue Act. It can't be sold for human consumption or it'd be considered a controlled substance. As an incense, it's perfectly legal. Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_chemicals#Law + that whole page for some neat info on legal drugs (including opiates, hallucinogens, cannabinoids, uppers, downers, you name it! THERE'S A WHOLE WORLD OF DRUGS OUT THERE ME BOYOS!)
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1: Wish I could afford it, and wish sneakiness wasn't an issue.
2: I've heard about both K2 and K3...
3: What if it's only residual K3, and not a full bowl's worth?
4: Has there been a lesson on Magic Mushrooms yet? I'm thinking about helping my pop grow some sometime in the future, but first, I need information on safety, addictiveness, tastiness, etc.
5: Would very much appreciate a list of drugs, organized by addictiveness and safety. I heard that 'shrooms are safer to use than reefer, from a scientific study somewhere...

2: Yep, K3 is just like K2++, same company and everything iirc. Stick with K2 if you lack experience.
4: Magic mushrooms are safe, not addictive in the slightest, and taste like ♥♥♥hole. http://www.shroomery.org
5: Well "safer" is a really complicated term. The most I could do is categorize them in "would do" and "would not do" and maybe elucidate a little on some of the drugs.
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OT: Would you suggest buying from a coffeeshop or a dealer?

Honestly, I have no idea. That's going to be a regional thing, try both and see how you like.
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http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/news/press/current.php?kw=mcLean-study-shows-greater-cognitive-deficits-in-marijuana-users-who-start-&id=162

Beep beep.

Beep beep sociological problems as well as medical problems apply here. Correlation does not imply causation. I can explain further if you'd like.

If I missed something, re-ask it! Oh and YHTFLKC those pipes aren't great but for the price it'll work and it's certainly better than a tin can.


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My mom is intent on us having shrooms growing in our backyard, but I told her they aren't shrooms. She says she wants to pick them and I told her she shouldn't because I'm paranoid they're some horrible fungus that causes her eyes to bleed out. Anyone here, if I took pictures, would they be able to identify them as shrooms or not?


20+ people are on the verge of death in Taiwan if I remember correctly and a few died here in Portugal some years ago. Like ophanim said, mushroom identification is hard enough with the proper know-how (there's more to a mushroom than looks), so yeah, don't pick ♥♥♥♥ out of the floor and eat it.


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Ociamarru wrote:
My mom is intent on us having shrooms growing in our backyard, but I told her they aren't shrooms. She says she wants to pick them and I told her she shouldn't because I'm paranoid they're some horrible fungus that causes her eyes to bleed out. Anyone here, if I took pictures, would they be able to identify them as shrooms or not?


20+ people are on the verge of death in Taiwan if I remember correctly and a few died here in Portugal some years ago. Like ophanim said, mushroom identification is hard enough with the proper know-how (there's more to a mushroom than looks), so yeah, don't pick ♥♥♥♥ out of the floor and eat it.

AND FLY AGARIC
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THESE SHITS. POISON. NEVER EAT THEM. These little mario mushfags cause so many deaths. Fly agaric, amanita muscaria, whatever. They're dangerous.


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AND FLY AGARIC

THESE SHITS. POISON. NEVER EAT THEM. These little mario mushfags cause so many deaths. Fly agaric, amanita muscaria, whatever. They're dangerous.

Saw one of these by a car park, not 20 minutes ago.
Thought about making chicken & mushroom pie for my mother.


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Well, you still could if you hate her enough.


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What are the thoughts on Robitussin? I drank a bottle the other day and got rather ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up feeling, could hardly walk around my room or watch tv without falling over and not moving...
I am wondering if there is anything I can do if I do it again that will reduce how dizzy I get, maybe make it more fun...
Any ideas?


Mucinex DM is safer to take than Robitussin, has the same active ingredient (DXM), and is much less unpleasant to take. The worst symptoms of taking alot of Mucinex DM are nausea and vomiting from the guaffenesin. Robitussin, on the other hand, is the thing that famously sends people to the hospital.

I also found a guide which appears to be a very effective way of extracting the DXM out of robitussin, which if done correctly gives pure DXM powder, which is much less dangerous than the stuff you usually take it with. It involves using solvents, however, so be careful.

http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread ... bb&t=22169


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spungypirate wrote:
What are the thoughts on Robitussin? I drank a bottle the other day and got rather ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up feeling, could hardly walk around my room or watch tv without falling over and not moving...
I am wondering if there is anything I can do if I do it again that will reduce how dizzy I get, maybe make it more fun...
Any ideas?


Mucinex DM is safer to take than Robitussin, has the same active ingredient (DXM), and is much less unpleasant to take. The worst symptoms of taking alot of Mucinex DM are nausea and vomiting from the guaffenesin. Robitussin, on the other hand, is the thing that famously sends people to the hospital.

I also found a guide which appears to be a very effective way of extracting the DXM out of robitussin, which if done correctly gives pure DXM powder, which is much less dangerous than the stuff you usually take it with. It involves using solvents, however, so be careful.

http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread ... bb&t=22169

It is most certainly not safer, it has twice the Guaifenesin:DXM ratio of Robitussin DM. What made you think it was safer? They're the exact same thing, except with a higher chance of poisoning yourself with guaifenesin. That, and Mucinex is in tablet form whereas Robitussin DM is mixed with a bunch of high-fructose corn syrup.
Seriously people, unless you have hard medical fact which states something, don't recommend things like this. Your recommendation is relatively harmless, but it could have been something exponentially more harmful.
This too http://www.dextroverse.org/extractions.html


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Yeah, I think I got it mixed up with coircidin , which is supposed to be pretty dangerous in high doses. Don't take coricidin. Also, how much DXM is in a max strength 8 ounce bottle of robitussin? I can't find out.


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Yeah, I think I got it mixed up with coircidin , which is supposed to be pretty dangerous in high doses. Don't take coricidin. Also, how much DXM is in a max strength 8 ounce bottle of robitussin? I can't find out.

If you have the bottle, work it out. It should list total volume and how much DXM is in a teaspoon or something. Coricidin cold and cough has acetaminophen in it, which will cause liver failure. Make sure what you have only has DXM or just guaf.


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