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Okay so, it's a known fact that I'm horrible at spriting. Once in a while I feel motivated enough, after reading a couple tutorials for it, but I just suck so bad at it.

Anyway, to the point. For the modding contest, I want to do a futuristic looking carbine. Code is perfect and stuff, only problem is the sprite.

I'm loosely basing myself on this design, but I'm butchering it non-stop with my awful artsy skills.

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I like the siloutte/size, but I just can't nail the rest. To the left is the gun and the mag, to the right it's the gun with the mag.

Anyway so, how can I make it not suck?

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Oh I'm perfect at this asklar I will help


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I gave an attempt asklar:

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I was having a difficult time finding colours to use from CC's limited palette so it's a little rough (not to mention im not a stellar spriter) but I think the shape is right.

Edit: It's a little longer than the image though :<


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Just exaggerate the pieces of it that you like. You also kind of have to make sacrifices for amount of space, like that gap in between the picatinny and the barrels is nice, but instead of that I'd rather show off the fact that it has a picatinny altogether (also because it's horizontal, it gives a better feel when you're aiming it in CC - it makes your eyes automatically fill in that it's being pointed in a certain direction).

Also I personally try to make my sprites have a uniform lighting source (from near-left to far-right, with high diffuse). CC uses some epic cartoony stylization for their sprites though, that can be achieved with a darker border on all the key pieces of an object. This would be hard to achieve on this particular source image because of how flat the object is and how that effects the way it should appear 'lit', but for an example, I could border the picatinny and front of the gun with a darker shade.

For rifles and pistols though I find that these things are so subtle, you can really just do whatever you want... as long as a line of aim is established with your eyes. Like, in this image it's VERY clear which way the object is 'pointing', everything else is just whether or not you like the shades of color between the lines or not. Also, experiment with 5 ideas and try not to spend too much invested time into each of them. For example, I stuck a red-dot sight and a short-range sight on this before I decided that I like the picatinny more than both, so I exaggerated it even more.

The last thing I can suggest is for lighting - find a program where you can make a selection-based layer that you can change opacity with - you can fake light a lot faster by filling a bordered selection on a new layer with white/black and then turn the opacity down to highlight or shadow while keeping the Hue you like. Also, with the same selection you can select the pixels of your main object and increase saturation. Although this is more complex, it gives more control over the range of indexed colour you can get once you decide to switch to CC palette - which is important when deciding whether or not the palette version of your object is going to be put into the game.

With all that said I don't exactly aim to have my mods fit with CC's stylization. I kind of do, but the vanilla mods use thicker borders which I have a hard time bringing myself to accepting (into palette) after I put so much detail into the lighter borders. :)

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Thanks!

That's actually quite a helpful wall of text, and I'll try to make it work!

If I fail, I'll just copy your sprite <.<

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Okay, for the record, I could only manage to make the sprite look worse. I guess I won't be wanting to sprite for a long while Q.Q

So thanks corpsey for the sprite.


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Just so you see how little effort was actually put into this though...



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Hey, now that's an interesting method.

I'll reinstall gimp and play around with that to see if I get less frustrated now :P

Thanks for the explanation!


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Asklar somebody can be stealing your idea right now


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And if anyone did it would blatantly obvious and everybody would hate them for it, so it would be pointless.


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Yea major is right


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I've started to refine it but still looks a little to large but that might be a good thing, at this point some criticism would be nice before i begin to detail it.

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My only concern is that the gun will take up almost the whole screen from the ground to the top limits of the sky. Not sure what kind of functionality you're going for with these (dropship killer? Artillery? Shoot Something in Orbit?) but MOST of the maps don't have very tall "skies". Just want you to keep that in mind.

I'm pretty sure that if it's too large you can always shrink it down though with the right program. (looks better than blowing something up [inflating size])


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Apollon wrote:
My only concern is that the gun will take up almost the whole screen from the ground to the top limits of the sky. Not sure what kind of functionality you're going for with these (dropship killer? Artillery? Shoot Something in Orbit?) but MOST of the maps don't have very tall "skies". Just want you to keep that in mind.

I'm pretty sure that if it's too large you can always shrink it down though with the right program. (looks better than blowing something up [inflating size])


its suppose to be a dropship killer and i was kinda hoping to use a map with a large sky or even find that huge sky map that is hanging around the forums i remember seeing pictures that went from ground to space.


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If you find a map like that (or maps) let me know. I've been looking for big-sky maps too.


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Apollon wrote:
If you find a map like that (or maps) let me know. I've been looking for big-sky maps too.


I'll ask for the moderator that posted it, i'm fairly sure he's still active.


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